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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25039

TheQuietMan
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And to add by myself. I’m not opposed to it being either reboot or sequel. But the fact it originally went with the latter route, you’d think they have many, many, many ideas to already re-explore. But unfortunately, they can’t, because of stupid copyright laws. It’s outdated and needs to be revised.
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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25038

TheQuietMan
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@Dustcan
That’ll end in a disaster. With it being a sequel to a “sequel” that’s dubbed “the worst” by many fans even appearing in this very thread now or before. They should just go the Transformers route and reboot every generation instead.
@GoodVibesGorgeous
I still wonder what makes it different than unicorn florakinesis? The power of heart?
@DerpyFast
Even now only Hitch out of everyone else even Sprout, Phyllis and many earth ponies is the only one who could talk to animals. And yeah, if you did upload that, the outcome, reaction and consequence are painfully obvious.
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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25037

Background Pony #1C23
“ In nature, such drastic changes do not happen by themselves. As with the extinction of the dinosaurs and the ice ages that created humanity in our world. There must have been a trigger - and we don’t know where or how it happened. It is as if a vast dam of latent magic had been extinguished to the rest of the world where the magic accumulates to unimaginable heights. Twilight being the element of Magic had undoubtedly understood this and then began to intervene. “
Today, the world is under a climate crisis where it is not only too hot, but there is also a great danger of global flooding if the ice in Greenland, the Arctic and Antarctica were to melt into the world’s oceans, which will expand when the water is heated. It is possible that this is the trigger that transformed the G4 world - because by considering magic as life-giving water that permeates the entire world, it can mean that over millennia it had built up enormous amounts of latent magic that had not been “released” in G1/ G4 and G4 worlds. If all the world’s ice were to melt, human civilization would be severely affected, and this threat - with chaotic and uncontrolled magic predominating instead of water in the G4 world - would force artificial intervention.
Twilight with her expertise and talent as the element of Magic would be the right pony to bring such a global crisis under control and she may have used the Unity Crystals as a mod to create many magical anchors not only for the seven seas but also worldwide. This hypothesis could support Opaline’s claim that Twilight had an empire, which may have been world-wide based on the together trees, the magical anchors and bonds of friendship. Through this effort - which must have taken several centuries, a new world is being created - the G5 world, where the old lore had to be discarded.
But where did the latent magic come from, the “ice” that had begun to melt and release into the background magic? We’ve learned that magic in Equestria is layered; internal magic in a living being, static magic in non-living objects, passive magic that remains intact, active magic that can be stolen/sealed, magic divided by kind such as ponies, sea ponies, dragons and many more - and finally elemental magic. All of this rests on background magic.
As in MYM, TYT and most recently SYS proved to be too strong, so that one could not use magic without unforeseen consequences. Therefore, the magic had to be regulated with “dams” to prevent “floods”, “landslides” and pollution damage.
My belief is that the “ice” may be in Everfree. When we saw what was supposed to be the valley from G4 in the movie, where it is claimed that the big tree was the harmony tree, it turned out that the whole area had been eradicated - none of the forests are left. It looked like it had exploded there. We also learned that Ponyville had to be evacuated during a mysterious incident, and that the residents had to flee to Maretime Bay, Bridlewood and Zephyr Heights. At the end of G4, it had been learned that the Everfree we thought was magic free was in reality full of very potential magic that may have made the harmony tree a reality. Dark and terrifying magic that the ponies had to keep at bay. Was there in Everfree the trigger that creates the G5 world, happened? The most secretive location in all of MLP.
It happened during Twilight’s reign, and possibly before Opaline’s second attack. She had had to deal with the aftermath which she also kept secret from posterity.
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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25036

Jonny Manz
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@Roseluck
I dunno, I’m a big Izzy fan, so I didn’t see any drop off between her movie self and MYM - but I’m guessing that all those “horror stories” regarding Izzy’s characterization (that I generally disagree with) are indeed a TYT-exclusive phenomenon.
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Pony Discussion » Unpopular opinion time » Post 174951

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Twi Clown
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@TheQuietMan
Kinda hypocritical considering how many ships are done out of nowhere anyway…and I don’t just mean canon X OC.
For all accounts I do like Flash nowadays, not that he has a lot of competition among male characters but ehh, gotta take what I can get.
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Pony Discussion » Unpopular opinion time » Post 174948

Jonny Manz
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@Latecomer
I mean, that’s fair, but I dunno, I guess I just took it personally when it looked like they were taking a character who I saw (and see) a lot of myself in and giving her a potential love interest who was so incredibly bland - and making her fall for him for seemingly only that reason.
Because yeah, I enjoyed quite a few of those fandom concepts (while rolling my eyes - at worst - at others)

Pony Discussion » Unpopular opinion time » Post 174947

Hollowfox, Always The Worst Person
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Est. 2012
I think Sci-Twi and Twilight wouldn’t be the same if they didn’t look the same, and yes that includes color schemes.
That way, Flash would easily tell the difference instead of hating Twilight to the point where she will be forever alone after returning to Equestria bc of Sci-Twi hating him.
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Pony Discussion » Unpopular opinion time » Post 174945

Twi Clown
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
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@Latecomer
It didn’t. Admittedly Sunset Shimmer was the true main carry of EG.
@Dragonpone
For starters, it felt like trying to make the Flash Sentry thingy but good, but to some Timber seems like he tried too hard to look cool It might depend if you like Timber’s exuberance or Flash’s eventual fleshing out. And then there’s the waifu stealer which seems a bit weird since Sci-Twi is not really the Twilight people has got accustomed to at least at the time.
@Mr.Myoozik
Yeah, but since people need precise terms rather than more exact if mouthful explanations, one just use the easiest terms available out of necessity. So I don’t think the words you used were really incorrect.
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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25033

Pony Discussion » Unpopular opinion time » Post 174944

Mr.Myoozik
StarTrix Forever! - Derpi Supporter
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Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
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@TheQuietMan
Like I said, people interpret words and meanings differently from one another and there is also intent in how you say it, but that topic has sailed away so no point in pulling it back to shore.
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Dragonpone
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Badge Dragon
It’s been forever since I saw EQG4, why do people hate Timber Spruce again? I don’t remember thinking he was that bad.
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Latecomer

@Jonny Manz
This is the fandom which spun characters out of eye drift and bench sitting. Compelling takes on Flash are wholly possible.
(Now as for why I think she fell so hard for him… well, the heat-supressing medicines Twilights has been taking since puberty are surprisingly useless at doing anything about teenage human libido. But lots of relationships start from something like that and grow.)
@Twi Clown
Indeed. And the dropping of Pony Twilight from the subfranchise likely didn’t help.
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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 25032

Background Pony #1C23
When the TYT episode about the supercharged moon was aired, no one understood how it happened, but the celestial bodies move by themselves. This could be proof that the magical world had been fundamentally changed - so much so, that much of the G4 lore is no longer valid.
It was already proven that the magical world had been fundamentally changed long before TYT’s Moon Festival aired. Remember this line from Twilight’s recorded message in MYM’s Growing Pains?
“Magic is alive. Always changing. Growing stronger.”
And yes, much of the G4 lore is no longer valid. Earth ponies couldn’t magically create plants back then and now they can. Therefore, there are things in G4’s lore that are now outdated. What many people like to point at and call “inconsistencies” are actually just products of the magic in Equestria evolving.
“Earth ponies and unicorns can walk on clouds now without a spell! That’s bad!”
Why? Why is it bad that the magic in Equestria evolving has now allowed earth ponies and unicorns to walk on clouds without a spell? Because that’s not what it was like back in Season 1 of FiM? That’s your only reason for not accepting a simple explanation for why things have now been made easier for the ponies of Equestria?
And yet it has been seen that while the ponies could let the magic remain wild and unregulated in G4, it has been very different in G5, because not only had the magic evolved, it has become stronger - and more uncontrolled than before.
In MYM chapter 1 we had seen how magic became a very serious threat to the surroundings, and in MYM ep. 2 the earth pony magic was literally out of control - it had become too strong for earth ponies. And of course this episode was very logically weak because we didn’t see why the magic went berserk, it just happened by itself, and even less when the ponies brought it under “control”. Opaline explained that the more unstable the magic becomes, the more powerful it becomes. And she, as a Fire alicorn, could assimilate unstable magic without consequences. It is not only when there is discord among the tribe ponies that magic went berserk, it could happen by itself when magic users are inexperienced or careless. This was not witnessed early on in G4, because the magic was not that strong.
We had thought this was only for the tribe ponies - earth ponies, unicorns and pegasi, but that was before Opaline stole the Dragonstone in MYM Ch 4. while the dragons were asleep, and then it was discovered that the dragons also had to regulate their magic through a magical anchor. This discovery makes us start to wonder if there is more than just the Unity Crystals, and that it wasn’t the dragons who had been forced to depend on such artifacts to be able to use their magic, and that the dragonstone had to be dormant while the dragons were hibernating. It wasn’t just to protect the dragons from further attacks from Opaline.
In TYT S1 ep. 59 the moon was so magically strong, that it supercharging pony magic - and possibly all kinds of magic that is so high up in the atmosphere when the moon is at its closest. This could not be regulated at all, and the celestial bodies in G5 could not only break with G4 after all, these could be under some form of control. We had then learned in TYT S1 ep. 12 that the weather control in what is a static weather in G4 had been automated and then it meant that it must be able to be generated with magic. There was little use of magic beyond the pegasi magic in G4, in G5 magic powers the entire weather apparatus in Equestria, maybe the entire world.
And from the SYS Arc in IDW comics we have learned that there are seven magical anchors that work in the same way as the Unity Crystals, but in addition to giving sea ponies/non-sea ponies (sea dragons) personal magic, it regulates the background magic of the seas which is kept calm so the waters will not become turbulent. The magic in the seas in G4 was almost non-existent, mostly around the magically active creatures such as sea ponies, kelpies and others. According to Calla Lily, the magic is so strong that the seas can get out of control and swallow the lands.
Just like in the manga One Piece considering the latest revelations from the last chapter. There it was revealed that the islands were the remains of huge continents that had been swallowed up by the sea, and that these will disappear because powerful weapons that disturb the natural balance are still being used. The seven magical anchors in the seven seas are G5’s answer to the ancient weapons in One Piece. We know Twilight had created the Unity Crystals and the Dragonstone, so it is not unreasonable that she had also created the seven anchors.
Logically, one must assume that there must be far more magical artifacts around the world that Twilight could have created, and it was most likely never with Opaline in mind; we know from the Discord Arc and then Spike himself that Opaline had attacked twice, and that the Unity Crystals were created during the first attack to bring the magic under control. In the next few centuries before the final attack by Opaline, Twilight may have observed the evolution of magic and concluded that it is becoming stronger and more unpredictable than before. But then came a time when all magic had to be put under strict regulation like a natural lake had to be dammed because the floods and erosion damage were starting to become too harmful. The Unitt Crystals, the Dragonstone, the Seven Anchors and several others we do not yet know about - have become “magical dams”.
There must have been a starting point, a natural revolution, which made magic much stronger and more uncontrolled, there had been magical civilizations for several millennia without having to have artificial interventions in the natural flow of magic. It definitely wasn’t Opaline. The Windigos may have been the cause, perhaps these had an important role - before Twilight had to exterminate them because they wanted to exterminate all ponykind. Maybe she triggered something that wasn’t unforeseen?
In nature, such drastic changes do not happen by themselves. As with the extinction of the dinosaurs and the ice ages that created humanity in our world. There must have been a trigger - and we don’t know where or how it happened. It is as if a vast dam of latent magic had been extinguished to the rest of the world where the magic accumulates to unimaginable heights. Twilight being the element of Magic had undoubtedly understood this and then began to intervene.
The Unity Crystals which may have been Twilight’s masterpiece were likely the first artifact that could regulate magic through artificial intervention, may have been the predecessor of all magic regulating artifacts throughout the world. But we know from the Discord Arc that at first it was just to put an end to the disorder among the ponies by being able to regulate magic. It was not meant to steal magic from others, although Opaline possibly experienced this during the last attack when Twilight defeated her. As the ponies’ magic grew stronger, the Unity Crystals had to regulate more and more magic - in MYM ch. 1 we saw that these were about to burst because it had become too much, before Sunny plunged into the void and released the earth pony magic. The other artifacts or anchors may have been less vulnerable possibly because these are not so complicated in comparison.
Twilight claims that magic is alive, but then all these magical anchors are in practice chains that had to be used to bind the magic and force it not to blow up the surroundings. She may have understood this, and perhaps it may have made her somewhat depressed as seen last time in the IDW covers. Then she took the crystals apart. We know from MYM Ch. 2 that the Guardians were in charge of the Unity Crystals, possibly chosen by Twilight before she disappeared. The magic will not disappear by taking apart the Unity Crystals even if it becomes unstable, perhaps because it becomes too uncontrollable. Then the guardians got amnesia, couldn’t remember their mission. And the pony magic disappeared through sheer forgetfulness. When Sunny activated the Unity Crystals and released the magic, a lot of magic had built up in the meantime. Hence what we saw in MYM Ch. 1.
The magic had become too strong, so that it had to be regulated in order to have intact civilizations not only in Equestria, but all over the world. Herein lies the big question that has so far not been answered.
What is this about “Why is it bad that the magic in Equestria evolving has now allowed earth ponies and unicorns to walk on clouds without a spell?” I have stated my hypothesis on this, that there are magical clouds with built in spells that allow non-pegasi to walk on clouds and it seemed to only apply to certain clouds with the automated weather machines. In G4, only magical beings with wings could walk on clouds, everyone else needed spells to do the same. This is not uncontrolled or too strong magic, these are magical spells. Very big difference here.
So the question is; where is the big trigger that changes the G4 world?
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Dragonpone
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@Dustcan
With a little reworking I could totally see a timeline where Pegasi were the leads in G5.
Most high-tech society, Haven is already the most relevant leader, Zipp drives much of the plot, Pipp is in a lot of ways the face of G5, Both sisters being Princesses…
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